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Old 19-08-2007, 23:09
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How good was Casey Stoner today.... i think we're looking at the new Valentino Rossi, he's proving to be a class act at only 21.... Good on the little aussie
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How good was Casey Stoner today.... i think we're looking at the new Valentino Rossi, he's proving to be a class act at only 21.... Good on the little aussie

HE IS THE BIZZ...........HOPEFULLY HE WILL BE AS GOOD NEXT YEAR........ITS HARD TO DOMINATE IN THIS SPORT LIKE ROSSI HAS DONE....IJ
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Old 19-08-2007, 23:30
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HE IS THE BIZZ...........HOPEFULLY HE WILL BE AS GOOD NEXT YEAR........ITS HARD TO DOMINATE IN THIS SPORT LIKE ROSSI HAS DONE....IJ

I quite agree using Nicky Hayden as a prime example... however Stoner is a lot younger and in himself and Ducati there seems to be the perfect package....

As i said to a friend earlier i'd like to see Stoner on Rossi's bike and visa versa then the outcome would be somewhat different....taking nothing away from Stoner but Rossi is probably the best rider we'll ever see in our lifetime..Genius
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Old 20-08-2007, 01:09
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I thought it was a pretty boring race today for the armchair spectator.
Stoner leading from start to finish, and precious little overtaking.

Well done to Casey Stoner, surely MotoGP champion 2007. He has used the superior package of Ducati/Bridgestone to perfection, and I take nothing away from him. He is a deserved winner.

I just feel a little aggrieved that his only true rival Rossi is struggling so badly on an underpowered and difficult bike. Rossi is going to struggle to hold 2nd place to Pedrosa the way Honda is going, and a big to John Hopkins who is doing so well on the Suzuki.

Rossi must be cursing his decision to stay with Yamaha next season. Possibly the worst combination of bike /tyre out there.
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Old 20-08-2007, 04:38
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Yes Roger, the race wasn't real exciting at all.

It's still a fair way to go till the season ends, and I'm sure that Casey Stoner knows, he still has to win more races till he can relax.

I'm sorry, but I cannot go along with what other people say about Rossi & Stoner swapping bikes etc & it'd be a different result.
It's not as though Yamaha don't know, how to make race winning bikes.
If the Ducati was far superior, why aren't they finishing 1-2 every race?
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Old 20-08-2007, 04:50
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It's not as though Yamaha don't know, how to make race winning bikes.
If the Ducati was far superior, why aren't they finishing 1-2 every race?

Its been a while since the Yamaha was the best bike on the grid. Even when Rossi won the title for them in 05 after leaving Honda, the Honda was still the faster bike. That championship was down to the rider.......... Rossi.

This year, Stoner has been the best rider, on the best bike. Capirossi hasn't been giving the Ducatis 1-2s because Rossi, Hopkins, Vermulen, Pedrosa are better racers this season. I'm not trying to take anything away from Stoner BTW. He can sit out 2GPs and still be 10pts ahead of Rossi if he won them both. Its in the bag provided he doesn't crash out and break a leg or arm IMO.
Stoner has all the credentials to be the next superstar of MotoGP. He already has one foot up on the ladder.
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Old 20-08-2007, 09:10
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Yes Roger, the race wasn't real exciting at all.

It's still a fair way to go till the season ends, and I'm sure that Casey Stoner knows, he still has to win more races till he can relax.

I'm sorry, but I cannot go along with what other people say about Rossi & Stoner swapping bikes etc & it'd be a different result.
It's not as though Yamaha don't know, how to make race winning bikes.
If the Ducati was far superior, why aren't they finishing 1-2 every race?

If Stoner does become world champion and continues to dominate Moto GP like Rossi has done the last 7 years, i bet he wont have the balls to set himself a challenge and change to a lesser manufacturer like Rossi has done the last 3 years..... had Rossi stayed at Honda he'd still be world champion now and winning every week but he proved its not the machine its the rider when he went to Yamaha...its rough patch for Rossi but he'll sort it out...
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Old 21-08-2007, 00:16
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If Stoner does become world champion and continues to dominate Moto GP like Rossi has done the last 7 years, i bet he wont have the balls to set himself a challenge and change to a lesser manufacturer like Rossi has done the last 3 years..... had Rossi stayed at Honda he'd still be world champion now and winning every week but he proved its not the machine its the rider when he went to Yamaha...its rough patch for Rossi but he'll sort it out...

The only way Rossi can sort it out is to ride for another team IMO. He has signed up with Yamaha for next season, and I just don't think Yamaha can give him a bike good enough to win the Championship again.

Its true what you are saying about changing teams, and he gave himself a big ask to drag Yamaha up to start winning races. The problem is that Yamaha have fallen so far behind with developing the bike, all the other manufacturers are now ahead. He can't do it all himself on such inferior equipment. Michelin aren't helping either unless its very hot.
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Old 21-08-2007, 12:25
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The only way Rossi can sort it out is to ride for another team IMO. He has signed up with Yamaha for next season, and I just don't think Yamaha can give him a bike good enough to win the Championship again.

Its true what you are saying about changing teams, and he gave himself a big ask to drag Yamaha up to start winning races. The problem is that Yamaha have fallen so far behind with developing the bike, all the other manufacturers are now ahead. He can't do it all himself on such inferior equipment. Michelin aren't helping either unless its very hot.

Dawsey, i'm not questioning your quote about Rossi signing up for another year with Yamaha but was told yesterday by a friend/ Moto GP fan that Rossi has agreed to join Suzuki next year partnering Vermuelen as John Hopkins is moving to another team. I've looked on internet but cant find any evidence to back this theory up.... wondered if you or any of the other Moto GP fans have heard anything....?
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My oplon or theory maybe im wrong but in any motor sport when you get to the top or you are very very good you get the best equipment.So you most probally stay on top for a while.the only thing that destoys this is when money is more inportant than winning.I dont know why going to inferior equipment is a chalenge.because it does not matter how good you are you will never win with grap equpment.Or else there would be more varied winners
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Old 22-08-2007, 00:27
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My oplon or theory maybe im wrong but in any motor sport when you get to the top or you are very very good you get the best equipment.So you most probally stay on top for a while.the only thing that destoys this is when money is more inportant than winning.I dont know why going to inferior equipment is a chalenge.because it does not matter how good you are you will never win with grap equpment.Or else there would be more varied winners

Sorry, but I think you are wrong. You do not always get the best equipment when you are at the top.You only get the best your team can give you.
Money, I don't feel comes into it with Rossi, or many of the other very top riders. Its the kudos that goes with winning a Moto GP championship.
Rossi proves your statement wrong, when he moved from the success of winning with Honda, to a team who hadn't won a world championship since Wayne Rainey in 1992. Honda dominated the 90's with Mick Doohan, Rossi took over on 2000 and won three times on Honda before setting himself the challenge of winning on another bike. He did that twice by pure skill and on what is still a pretty much unchanged bike (OK its now 800cc not 990cc).

Masterwoodsman. Im sure Rossi has already signed a contract for next season.
Hopkins is off to Kawasaki, and Capirossi takes his ride at Suzuki. Im not sure Yamaha will keep Colin Edwards too much longer. He just can't cut it in Moto GP after the infinately easier Superbike championships.
I was wrong about Hayden though. He is making an effort now, but I really didn't think he had a decent race left in him.
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Starsports is still showing the 9 Ball Pool thingy, argh!! Dont think it will end anytime soon.

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Aaah, just turned on the TV to check, MotoGP is on with 20 laps to go.

Dont know what happened at the start.

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Stoner leading & Rossi out with engine problems.
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Old 02-09-2007, 21:03
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Another boring race
Stoner lead from start to finish, undisputed champion for this season.
Rossi retired while in 4th place, but never catching Vermulen and Hopkins in 2nd and 3rd.
Pedrosa taken out on first lap and Hayden finished around 14th after going off.
Good race for Malandri and Capirossi finishing 4th and 5th.

Estoril (Portugal) next race on 21st Sept.
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It was scheduled on UBC from 16.00 onwards but for some reason the 9 Ball pool was more important, luckily i have cable also so didn't miss anything.

Stoner in a league of his own right now with the perfect bike and tyre package.

Good to see the 2 Suzuki's doing well again

Its such a shame that Rossi is having problems with his bike as he's the only likely candidate to give Stoner a race..... unfortunately of late the Moto GP has lost its competitiveness and excitement and is becoming a one man race... Getting more fun watching the 250's these days..
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It was scheduled on UBC from 16.00 onwards but for some reason the 9 Ball pool was more important, luckily i have cable also so didn't miss anything.

Stoner in a league of his own right now with the perfect bike and tyre package.

Good to see the 2 Suzuki's doing well again

Its such a shame that Rossi is having problems with his bike as he's the only likely candidate to give Stoner a race..... unfortunately of late the Moto GP has lost its competitiveness and excitement and is becoming a one man race... Getting more fun watching the 250's these days..


and 125/s where everything is still possible !!!
I also agree that this year's championship in moto GP is really boring and mostly because of the tyres. It would have been interesting watching the Yamahas with Bridgeston tyres!
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Another boring race
Stoner lead from start to finish, undisputed champion for this season.

Rossi retired while in 4th place, but never catching Vermulen and Hopkins in 2nd and 3rd.
Pedrosa taken out on first lap and Hayden finished around 14th after going off.
Good race for Malandri and Capirossi finishing 4th and 5th.

Estoril (Portugal) next race on 21st Sept.

that just about sums it up rog........i used to look foward to the races....but not as much now......

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It would have been interesting watching the Yamahas with Bridgeston tyres!

There has been rumours of it happening for next year.

Have to agree with the posts here, been a quiet season not many races had any good dog fights regarding overtaking etc.
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I also agree that this year's championship in moto GP is really boring and mostly because of the tyres. It would have been interesting watching the Yamahas with Bridgeston tyres!

Did anyone see the pre race interview with Colin Edwards shown on BBC?

He suggested the racing would be better if all teams used one manufacturer, whether Michelin or Bridgestone. I agree the Michelin tyres are so poor compared to Bridgestones, and all Michelin bikes are at a disadvantage to begin with.

I don't think a change of tyre would help the Yamaha too much though, its the worst bike on the grid.

Yamaha and Rossi would be better developing the bike for next season as he will be lucky to hold onto 2nd place the way the Suzukis and Hondas are flying past him. Its just a pile of rubbish for top speed.

This has been the poorest season in a long while, though no fault of Stoner. He is doing his job perfectly.

On Saturday, UK terrestial TV showed the previous weeks Superbike round from Cadwell Park. Some fantastic racing was done, real wheel to wheel stuff, and it just reminded me of how Moto GP used to be. Only a couple of decent races this season so far IMO.
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