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05-06-2007, 08:38
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They have easily thrashed an England B or even C team on both of the last weekends.....not too unpredictable but the way they have done it has been most impressive.....good strong defense, good ball security and play amongst the forwards and some great backline manoevres which is where I think they are really becoming a world class team again.....if they continue in this form they will shorten greatly for the RWC....I already put some money on them whilst the Super 14 was in progress..... All Blacks werent particularly great to watch with a journeyman win over a third string French team on the weekend.....the hob cobbled French team did themselves proud in taking the game to the very end....Chabal was out on his feet....but without any of the flair or charm of the no1 team......ABs should improve with a second run next weekend Wallabies have been experimenting against Wales and have looked very ordinary but in the second half of the second game with gregan + Larkham in they started to gel a little......still a long way behind AB's and SA though IMHO..... and the Pumas have seen off Ireland to become the most improved team of the last 12 months.... Not much to read into all of these trial matches (they shouldn't realy be called "Tests")....except to say watch the Springboks
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05-06-2007, 15:00
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i cant see anything beyond an all blacks victory............and hopefully they will win.because i love their attacking style of rugby.........
agrre with you about the pumas...but we had some second rate players on that tour.......we will be well rested for the big one....just like the french.............ij
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05-06-2007, 16:28
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AGREE SPRINKBOKS LOOKED O/K JUST REMEMBER THEY HAD BOTH TEAMS IN SUPER 14 FINAL IMHO THEY HAVE IMPROVED HEAPS IN LAST 12 MONTHS. I HATE TO SAY IT BUT THE WALLABIES NEED GREGAN AT HALF TO DO ANY GOOD AND DONT EXPECT THEM TO FIGURE IN THE FINAL 4 OF WORLD CUP. RWC 2007 POOLS POOL A England MY TIPS SA FIRST ENGLAND 2ND South Africa Samoa USA Tonga POOL B Australia MY TIPS AUST FIRST WALES 2ND Wales Fiji Canada Japan POOL C New Zealand MY TIP NZ FIRST SCOTLAND 2ND Scotland Italy Romania Portugal POOL D MY TIP FRANCE FIRST IRELAND 2ND France Ireland Argentina Georgia Namibia THEN REST OF CUP AS FOLLOWS 06/10/2007 W Pool B RU Pool A QF1 Marseille 15:00 42 06/10/2007 W Pool C RU Pool D QF2 Cardiff 21:00 43 07/10/2007 W Pool A RU Pool B QF3 Marseille 15:00 44 07/10/2007 W Pool D RU Pool C QF4 St Denis 21:00 45 13/10/2007 W QF1 W QF2 SF1 St Denis 21:00 46 14/10/2007 W QF3 W QF4 SF2 St Denis 21:00 47 19/10/2007 Bronze Paris 21:00 48 20/10/2007 Final St Denis 21:00
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06-06-2007, 07:33
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06-06-2007, 08:27
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Its Sad That Really That Is The Only Group Result We Disagree On.
And Kind Of Shows How Sad The Cup Is. Just Hope Some Upsets And Close Games.
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06-06-2007, 08:44
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it was just a toss of the coin between Scotland and Italy really.....match could go either way.......I did have a second thought about Argentina and Ireland too but that would be a true turn up for the books..........but really Ireland should see that one out......
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06-06-2007, 16:38
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SEMI 1 AUST vs NZ
NZ TO WIN SEMI 2 FRANCE vs SPRINGBOKS BOKS TO WIN NZ vs BOKS FINAL WITH ALL BLACKS TO WIN
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06-06-2007, 16:45
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i would go with the abs,france and the spring boks...aus -eng will be a good q-final........hard t call it.both teams arent paying to their best at the moment.....ij
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06-06-2007, 19:15
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I will go against the majority...
Austrialia, South Africa, Ireland and France  All Blacks to go out in to Q/Finals  They are by miles the best team, BUT they always fcuk it up  Winners = France!!
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07-06-2007, 00:17
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hehe, this will be a good thread to look back on after its over and see just how good/bad the tipping was.
My last 4? NZ SA Ireland France. The other home countries, Wales, Scotland and England will all fall by the wayside early on. I don't think the Aussies will do anything either.
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07-06-2007, 01:30
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Tried to come up with some alternate scenarios ie Samoa, Italy, Argentina into the quarters, but I still come up with Australia, NZ, SA and France for the semis. I think NZ are the form team but I also think France with the home ground advantage are still in the running and SA look very tough at the moment. Hard to call. I think I'll wait until a couple of pool matches have been played before I make any bets on the eventual winner.
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07-06-2007, 02:37
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Because either Ireland or France will have to play New Zealand in the Q/Finals
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07-06-2007, 03:03
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 To be honest I haven't really looked at the fixtures yet, just picked what I though the best 4 sides in the competition.In that case, If Ireland are playing NZ, bye bye Ireland. I really don't fancy the Aussies at all. Maybe Argentina can make up that 4th place.
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07-06-2007, 05:02
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I'm with Cliff + DB.....ABs, Wobblies, France + SA........AB's should see Wobblies off but I think the France/Boks game could be a cracker and despite saying the Boks are the form team at present I won't be writing off the French at home....they are a different team there...and will improve greatly in the leadup games....
Eventual winner therefore could be a boilover with the winner of France/Boks taking out the AB's.....errrrr did I realy say that....55555
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07-06-2007, 14:46
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SA play Samoa this weekend and then it's the Tri-Nations,which should give a good indication of Australia's competency.Injuries are always a worry as any key players hurt could damage anyone's chances Agree with Allybabba about the All Blacks,in the past they have always peaked between the World Cups.Not sure if their policy of resting players during the Super 14 is going to pay off.....?
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07-06-2007, 16:40
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 Btw.. Argentina are in France and Irelands group so only two of them can qualify
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08-06-2007, 05:14
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They currently have the depth of 2 teams of players capable of winning it IMHO and they will be very different this time around under Graeme Henry.....but in saying that any team can play above or below themselves in knockout football and find their fate sewled with that one performance........that's what makes it all worth watching
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11-06-2007, 06:59
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well an improving and better selected Wobblies outfit thump a very ragged and disorganised Fiji 49/0.....AB's put 60 on a completely outclassed France....second string Boks beat Samoa comnfortably without stretching themselvresw and Argentina beat Italy......shame for Argentina that they don't play in the Scotland group at forthcoming RWC....or they would definitely get into the playoff series IMHO....
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11-06-2007, 13:59
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1999 - SF - stupidly, took their foot off the gas.... 1995 - Final - allegedly poisoned  1991 - SF 1987 - Winners I bet a lot of teams wish they could go out that 'early' I agree though, the Springboks are the one serious contender, provided he is allowed to pick his best team. They are really showing so glimpses of what made their greatest teams. Burger has come back well from injury, the have a world class finisher and some great backrow options. With New Zealand struggling at lock the Boks would dominate them in that area as well. Australia will be tough, I think there is still a world class 12 in there somewehere (ignoring their pitiful front 3), Larkham and Gregan still seem to be their best option. That said they'll have to pull out the stops to make the final. Absolutely nothing can be read into how France will perform based on their recent trip to NZ. The French have been annihilated before in similar circumstances and yet at crunch time they will be strong. Have a few injuries to clear up first and like Australia, maybe a bit long in the tooth in some key areas. Be nice to see Argentina get into the quarters again, something they did last time they were paired with ireland in France. Again, however, not much can be read into a weakened Irish side playing a series against a weakened Pumas team (first test especially). Certainly Argentina will have the upper hand in the forwards, but on their day Ireland's can be quite special. Still hasn't got them a grand Slam though.... 
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12-06-2007, 05:10
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Yep hard to live up to but the ABs have been firm favourites for every RWC so far and I think will be again for the forthcoming one.....unless they lose every lock,loose forward and front rower that played NZ Super14 Rugby......their forward play really is that superior.........5555 Australia will be fine if they can keep all of their best players on the field.....especially Vickerman + Sharpe in the forwards and Gregan + Larkham in the backs......but as you say their front row is apalling....well with the exception of Jeremy Paul if he were playing....they've had 4 years to get that right and it is still appalling SA is the team to watch in the TriNations......I still think they will take their home match off the AB's and beat the Wobblies both games.....whilst AB's will win both against Aus.......only bonus points or possibly even points difference will see ABs win the series..... first game up this Sat night....SA vs Aus......
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it will be interesting to see how seriusly this years 3N will be taken....sadly for me the RWC has meant many internationals have been devalued by the playing of lesser teams.
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although I do think you will see coaches pulling the most valuable players from the field if a game is obviously won!!
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The South Africans have already said that their priorioty is the RWC and they will use players sparingly throughout the tournament.
The recent NH tours were a joke, as are many of the tours these days. there used to be a real buzz about the magic of an All Blacks tour in the NH, not any more. They rarely put out what is their best team on tour. I know it gets results, but listening to Graham Henry bang on about players not touring was just a load of nonsense, when he has been guilty of the same thing. He didn't seem to mind devaluing the S14's this year. I hardly watched the recent Internationals, I saw 3 of them, usually I wouldn't have missed a minute.
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agree GH had some hide chastising the French about second string teams then using all 30+ players available to him over the two "test" matches and also pulling his best 30 out of S14 for "reconditioning"....ie "cotton wool"
He will however put his best players on the paddock....well without obvious injuries.....during the TriNations IMHO......Wallabies will be doing this as well within reason (they have a couple of positions to sort out properly) but if the Boks don't do this they will do themselves a great disservice....it is on for real from now on and it won't help any teams (or their suporters and coaches etc)well to get thrashed in the trinations in ther lead up to RWC....I think Jake White is gonna want to win everything form this point...I agree he will test out players but only those he already knows can do the job.....
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Well Jake W has selected a strong side for Saturday's match against the Aussies with only 4 of last weeks 'B side' selected.
Agree that the World Cup is Jake's priority but think that the Tri-Nations is an integral part of his preparation,so expect he will try to give everyone a run,avoid injuries if possible,but still field strong sides thru'out....
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Rugby Union has become an impossible game to ref. Watch the breakdown and miss the offsides....
That said there have been some shocking refereeing performances in recent times, no less so than Dickinson's shocking display in the first AB's France test. To be clear, it didn't effect the result, there's no doubt that the all Blacks would have won that game, but to see so many forward passes, particularly the one from Nick Evans where his tap pass was so clearly forward is frustrating for all. Mind you...anything that upsets Bernard Laporte is also good value.... In my book the best ref at the moment is Chris White. Walsh has become a parody of himself, which is a shame, cos he could have been good. Spreadbury is OK but needs to shut up a bit, Dopey Donal Coutenay from Ireland is just a walking disaster. The South African Kaplan isn't a bad ref either. Thankless job sadly, it's important the players retain the discipline they are famed for, little bit of dissent creeping in these days, we just don't need it. The best rugby team on the day however will still win.
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I'm glad no one is tipping Wales this time.
I believe we have a big win us during the next world cup, It may come against the Aussies in the first match in Cardiff that alone will give us a slight advantage, we were poor against them last November inCardiff and still got a draw, We sent a second team down under last Month and almost snatched a win I think the Aussies were reading too much of their own press. They only woke up in the second half of the second test and Gregan was their main man in that match. If we do beat the Aussies we could play England in the quarters out in France that is winnable maybe a bit harder match against the Boks if we lose to the Aussies, But we are capable of a win against one of them during the competition. Aussies currently winning 3N in S/A 10 -16
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