brit fans real class acts

[marc26]

i dont even care if i rile some of you up

so, you know my opinion about the brit boxing fans coming to vegas and imposing their songs in every hotel lobby and bar they happen to be in
regardless that other people paid their hard earned money to stay in those hotels also

so, although i dont particualry like it i sort of admire their fan spirit
fair enough

so what do they proceed to do at the arena?
they booed the US National Anthem throughout
a complete classless act by a bunch of hooligans
regardless of how you feel about a countries politics and even their people
you dont come to their country and boo their national anthem

regardless of how people feel about Americans, you would not see Americans doing this in other people's countries
and you know what the worst thing about the whole classless act. American fans have a lot of respect for Ricky Hatton and all it did was get the whole crowd against him

well, im sure i will

[Dodger]

Unfortunately Paul its the football element getting into boxing, I too always am annoyed at any crowd booing another countries national anthem, it just shows total disrepect. Unfortunately it is quite common from footballl crowds around the world.

I know how annoying it is to you, as have had it done when England have played many countries before to our anthem and it really winds me up.

Hope the British press pick up on it and try to shame them, as I wouldn't like to see this being repeated.

[IRISH JONNY]

the utd fans were at it in italy last nite !!!!!!!!!!!
its just the football holigans.........they cant go to football so now they are going to the boxing..............lets hope they stay away from the rugby!!!!!!!!!

[Nanook]

Originally Posted by marc26

i dont even care if i rile some of you up

so, you know my opinion about the brit boxing fans coming to vegas and imposing their songs in every hotel lobby and bar they happen to be in
regardless that other people paid their hard earned money to stay in those hotels also

so, although i dont particualry like it i sort of admire their fan spirit
fair enough

so what do they proceed to do at the arena?
they booed the US National Anthem throughout
a complete classless act by a bunch of hooligans
regardless of how you feel about a countries politics and even their people
you dont come to their country and boo their national anthem

regardless of how people feel about Americans, you would not see Americans doing this in other people's countries
and you know what the worst thing about the whole classless act. American fans have a lot of respect for Ricky Hatton and all it did was get the whole crowd against him

well, im sure i will

Well, I have expressed my feelings about the US and especially it politics and treatment of incoming visitors often enough.

However, here I must agree with you. Where you have in Europe a number of things as you described above, you also have seperated fan sections with sometimes rows of empty seats in between of the enemy camps. E.g. at champions leagues games, I think it is mandatory to keep 10% of the seats empty for "safety" reasons.
Booing of anthems is very "normal". Although it doesn't happen all the time. It depends on which country you play against.
We Dutch definately always boo the german anthem and the other way around.

Therefore I like the general atmosphere in Canadian and US stadiums. I've been many times in the Montreal Forum and later in the Molson (Bell) Center watching hockey games against Quebec, Boston or Toronto, whioch are big rivakl games. But people of the oposing teams were sitting next to each other, each cheering their own team. That is great and how it is supposed to be.
If you do that here in most football stadiums, you're dead meat.

[Dupree00]

F'em. We kicked their a5ses. Let them boo our anthem and sing their christmas song. They're losers. Except for Hatton. He got a few million$.

[Hobbsy]

Usa Usa Usa!

[The Loop]

Originally Posted by Dupree00

F'em. We kicked their a5ses. Let them boo our anthem and sing their christmas song. They're losers. Except for Hatton. He got a few million$.

Haha...thats the bottom line.........

Winners are grinners

Losers can scream their tits off....

[snorter]

Agree that it showed a lack of class, but in defence I felt it was more a reaction to Mayweather's classless behaviour throughout the weeks leading up to the fight. Having said that, I repeat, it showed a lack of class. As a Brit myself, I'm quite often embarrassed by the behaviour of Brits abroad........

[MrDK]

Originally Posted by marc26

...you dont come to their country and boo their national anthem

IMHO that is a step below flag burning .... in other words it hardly can get any lower than that.

[marc26]

Originally Posted by snorter

Agree that it showed a lack of class, but in defence I felt it was more a reaction to Mayweather's classless behaviour throughout the weeks leading up to the fight. Having said that, I repeat, it showed a lack of class. As a Brit myself, I'm quite often embarrassed by the behaviour of Brits abroad........

the biggest shame of it all is Ricky Hatton has a lot of American fans
we like how he goes about his way and that really turned people against someone who does seem like a class act

[marc26]

Originally Posted by Nanook

Therefore I like the general atmosphere in Canadian and US stadiums. I've been many times in the Montreal Forum and later in the Molson (Bell) Center watching hockey games against Quebec, Boston or Toronto, whioch are big rivakl games. But people of the oposing teams were sitting next to each other, each cheering their own team. That is great and how it is supposed to be.
If you do that here in most football stadiums, you're dead meat.

at Canuck games, the crowd belts out the US National Anthem when its played
maybe US just has a little more meaning or attachment to its national anthem and others?
i dont know
i have a lot of friends now from UK, i just got real pissed at thse guys actions

[retepg]

Unfortunately it appears to be part of a growing trend in sports events.
Used to be that you would go to a game to cheer your team and applaud the opposition when they score.
Today it is all about trying to influence the outcome of the game from the stands.
Soccer has done so for a long time, other sports are rapidly catching up.
Rugby was known for it’s knowledgeable and sporting fans. And still is in some places.
But booing and jeering when an opposition player lines up a kick at the posts has become part of the game in many fans eyes..
Here in SA the crowd, or at least a part of it have taken to singing loudly when the All Blacks perform the Hakka..
That is up there with singing jeering during the opposition’s national Anthem as far as I am concerned.
Cricket is beginning to have it’s problems with crowd behavior of late.
There was a Ryder Cup a few years ago that was decided on the last hole and reports were that a few USA fans did their level best to influence the outcome with some decidedly un golf like behaviour.
But then the players today are not much better
Who walks in cricket these days and what about sledging?
Soccer players who take a dive or fake an injury to get a penalty.
And boxers who turn the whole pre fight ritual in to a soap opera.

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by marc26

the biggest shame of it all is Ricky Hatton has a lot of American fans
we like how he goes about his way and that really turned people against someone who does seem like a class act

How the feck can you turn against Hatton because of the behaviour of the crowd, how was he to blame for this?

Anyone that turned against him for the crowds behaviour is definately showing they have no class.

[marc26]

Originally Posted by Dodger

How the feck can you turn against Hatton because of the behaviour of the crowd, how was he to blame for this?

Anyone that turned against him for the crowds behaviour is definately showing they have no class.

why?
to be honest that would have been my reaction also

you go in liking the guy, but because these hooligans disrepcted your country, you hope the guy they are rooting for loses

how is that not normal?

[Dodger]

So your saying the people who liked him for his fighting abilities and character now are no longer his fans, because some people totally unknown or representing him in anyway, booed your national anthem????

I ask again, how is that his fault??

how are these people his so called 'fans' if they drop him based on the singing by a bunch of hooligans?

[marc26]

Originally Posted by Dodger

So your saying the people who liked him for his fighting abilities and character now are no longer his fans, because some people totally unknown or representing him in anyway, booed your national anthem????

I ask again, how is that his fault??

how are these people his so called 'fans' if they drop him based on the singing by a bunch of hooligans?

well, i wouldnt say they were his fans
hes pretty new to US boxing casual fans

so people who went to that gym with a respect for Hatton who were ready to root for him decided againsthim because the british sort of made it a USA/England match when it wasnt looked at that way at all. so of course, they would back the US fighter. woudlnt you?

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by marc26

the biggest shame of it all is Ricky Hatton has a lot of American fans
we like how he goes about his way and that really turned people against someone who does seem like a class act

Originally Posted by marc26

well, i wouldnt say they were his fans
hes pretty new to US boxing casual fans

so people who went to that gym with a respect for Hatton who were ready to root for him decided againsthim because the british sort of made it a USA/England match when it wasnt looked at that way at all. so of course, they would back the US fighter. woudlnt you?

Okay sorry made a mistake, must of been someone else who said that then????5555555555!!

Of course you would end up backing your own countryman, not so sure it was the british who started it, the UK/USA grudge match, but am still in agreement with you that I do not like any country booing anothers national anthem, but there again I'm not a footie hooligan and have a little more integrity!!!

[marc26]

Originally Posted by Dodger

Okay sorry made a mistake, must of been someone else who said that then????5555555555!!

Of course you would end up backing your own countryman, not so sure it was the british who started it, the UK/USA grudge match, but am still in agreement with you that I do not like any country booing anothers national anthem, but there again I'm not a footie hooligan and have a little more integrity!!!

oh, i am all for any fans booing an athlete, although most think its their right these days
im sure their were many Americans booing Hatton when he walked in. i just dont think you should boo anyones National Anthem, especially in their home country!!

again, i couldnt imagine any of the great guys i met here on this forum and in LOS doing that. i am not bullshitting, i consider myself lucky to have met all the brits i have

[Dupree00]

Originally Posted by snorter

Agree that it showed a lack of class, but in defence I felt it was more a reaction to Mayweather's classless behaviour throughout the weeks leading up to the fight. Having said that, I repeat, it showed a lack of class. As a Brit myself, I'm quite often embarrassed by the behaviour of Brits abroad........

Ali was the king of this. This is all show to get people riled up and it sells tickets. Seems the British cannot tell the difference between real life and drama. Its a business and Mayweather has been very up front about that. Between him, Oscar del Ahoya, Hatton and Las Vegas much money was made. And why not? They put their bodies on the line.

The more Mayweather pissed the Brits off the more succesful this enterprise was. And if you think Hatton wasn't aware of this you're crazy. This was the perfect Rocky and Appollo Creed revival. I saw the video where the Brits were giving Mayweather the finger. It was hilarious. The people in the game know the score. Its the poor sap sipping his pint in some town that time forgot that believes the drama.

[LivinLOS]

Originally Posted by Dodger

So your saying the people who liked him for his fighting abilities and character now are no longer his fans, because some people totally unknown or representing him in anyway, booed your national anthem????

I ask again, how is that his fault??

how are these people his so called 'fans' if they drop him based on the singing by a bunch of hooligans?

Dunno I totally see Paulies point..

Reckon you would have to be argueing for arguments sake not to.

Yes you can like someone and then see his entourage / fan base are a bunch of twats and change your mind..

[LivinLOS]

Originally Posted by Dupree00

Ali was the king of this. This is all show to get people riled up and it sells tickets. Seems the British cannot tell the difference between real life and drama. Its a business and Mayweather has been very up front about that. Between him, Oscar del Ahoya, Hatton and Las Vegas much money was made. And why not? They put their bodies on the line.

The more Mayweather pissed the Brits off the more succesful this enterprise was. And if you think Hatton wasn't aware of this you're crazy. This was the perfect Rocky and Appollo Creed revival. I saw the video where the Brits were giving Mayweather the finger. It was hilarious. The people in the game know the score. Its the poor sap sipping his pint in some town that time forgot that believes the drama.

This I agree with.. But I also think that the fans enjoy the wind up themselves.. Its boxing, you know its 1 on 1, pick your champion, and root for him kinda stuff..

I also have to say I dont see the anthem booing being much a deal, then again I dont have much country alliegences. I wouldnt set out to deeply offend opposite supporters but I dont see much more in booing and anthem than booing a opposite team / competitor ?!?! I know Americans tend to get all misty eyed over 'old glory' and anthems etc, it does nothing much for me, but thats just me. Then again I dont really like the booing aspect at all.. Cheer your guy sure, but dont hoot at the other one.

[sishow]

Its the "2 world wars and one world cup" mentality thats seems to be entering every aspect of British life at the moment. I dont like it, but it seems the people doing it are very badly educated and read too many tabloid newspapers.

This is the problem with nationalism in England. Its harks back to much to the "We will fight them on the beaches......" and "Our England" that was so prevelent in past generations during wars. Its too intrenched in the national psyche to be stoped now I fear.