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As I pointed out the NH players have played their domestic competitions, Heineken Cup, 5 test matches and a RWC starting last September. That is well over 30 games for the top players.
The SH has had 4 months of one competition but that was of such high intensity that they'll have had more taken out of them? Sorry, doesn't cut it for me.
As for the weekend, two easy wins against two Celtic nations, one arriving without 5 of it's first choice team this year, away from home and at altitude. By the way, why did the SARFU move one game away from Cape Town after Wales showed good 6N form?
I'm not disputing the talent levels between NH and SH, but all this waffle about intensity and excitment are different arguements, and I think you've been watching S14 games through these rose tinted spectacles they sell around here. Every S14 game I watched this year was as mistake riddled as anything I watch from the NH, they were either boring blow outs but the good games were close matches with 2 tries to one. what is there in that that the NH doesn't have?
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btw, you should try playing rugby in phuket in May.
Four games over the weekend. I'm knackered and bruised.
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btw, you should try playing rugby in phuket in May.
Four games over the weekend. I'm knackered and bruised.
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Four games? I am impressed.....
As for the season, it is the same with EOY tours from the South. Our season starts early Feb. And runs thru to the EOY tours in Nov. The chances of all teams being at full strength seem less and less these days.
Now we are all playing under different rules just to confuse things even more.
With regards to the Wales test being moved, who knows why? Possibly for the crowds. Newlands always pulls in a full house and Italy would battle to attract many at Bloemfontein. I would have rather watched Wales at Newlands than Italy. We do get the AB’s this year though and that is always a highlight to me.
Anyway enjoy your rugga this weekend. Hopefully one day we can watch a game together, that should be good fun….
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geeze boys.....something to be avoided at all costs the NH vs SH p!ssing competition.....can't be a winner there....555
But truly I'd say that if a game were held here this weekend between the Crusaders and the Munster boys instead of a test involving half of them it would have generated far greater interest
I watched the Heinekin GF and thought it was a very good game of rugby lost by the team that scored 2 tries to one (same same S14).....and it would be a real contest with the S14 winner (at the time there wasn't one)
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geeze boys.....something to be avoided at all costs the NH vs SH p!ssing competition.....can't be a winner there....555
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But it can be good harmless fun.....
Truth be told, it is hard to separate. They are different kinds of rugby, played under different conditions and as hard as each other......
And we are all just passionate about the game...
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he started it. 
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Quite right. he did start it!!!!!!
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07-06-2008, 22:48
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Good win for the Bok's over Wales.
It must be said that the Welsh side were missing quite a few players and it showed in their performance today.
But this is the start of a new era for the Bok's with a new coach and a number of new players or players who have not been part of the setup for a while.
Ans as such it was nice to see them get off to a winning start.
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was a pretty ordinary game here last night...cr@p weasther didn't help...but was one of those old fashioned kicking contests that so bore me....very glad to be in a box this time (normally I prefer to be out in the crowd) as it absolutely p!ssed dowen for the whole match
still at least the winners scored 2 tries to one this time!!!
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Wales had no number 7 and it showed. Completely failed to put any pressure on at the breakdown.
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I was interested to watch the game last weekend with the reversion from new ELVs as played in S14 back to the Standard Test Rugby laws.....
What I noticed is that the ball is a lot slower coming out from the rucks (not really contestable again...I think if you are onside and on your feet you should be able to take a ball that is on offer if the attacking team is not defending it properly) the referee played basically no advantage and that I really hated it when the team with the ball threw it back into the safety of their 22 for a punt upfield to the sideline
The advantage thing can be sorted with a bit of referee education/guidelines from the gods but the rules on rucks and the "safety of the 22" should definitely change IMHO
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I thought that the SH teams would battle with going back to the old laws.
But it did not seem that much of a problem. Agreed about the 'Safety of the 22' That has been the big improvement to me. As the new law has kept the ball alive so much more.
Rucks and mauls are still an issue and they seem to vary from ref to ref regardless of Old laws or New ELV's
BTW New Zealand by 25 on Saturday...
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Retired All Black Jerry Collins has returned to sport, in the Wellington club rugby league competition.
After recently announcing the end of his rugby union career in New Zealand, Collins turned out for the North City senior team who played Wainuiomata over the weekend.
The Dominion Post newspaper reported that Collins was unregistered and played under a false name in his team's 30-34 loss, which will earn his team a fine.
Wellington Rugby League chairman Stephen Franks welcomed Collins' appearance but said competition rules had to be adhered to.
"He's an inspiration, and we love having him back in our game," Franks said.
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He hates not playing doesn't he? Why retire now when the NH season is so far away?
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He hates not playing doesn't he? Why retire now when the NH season is so far away?
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I do not know about New Zealand, but playing an unregistered player here in SA even at club level is a no no.
But it does seem that Jerry can't go too long without his rugby fix.....
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pretty smart move by Jerry and the manager of his RL team.....did he think the other team....Wainuiamata....where he grew up and is a local hero wouldn't notice him with tat haircut!.....555
But then again we are talking about league folk here
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Hopefully Jerry does the right thing and pays the fine for the club, or at least part of it..
Won't be long before his earning Euros. So he should be able to afford it....
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Hopefully Jerry does the right thing and pays the fine for the club, or at least part of it..
Won't be long before his earning Euros. So he should be able to afford it....
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555...have had the dubious pleasure of having lunch with a couple of the AB's of Jerry's generation Pete.....one lives 2 doors away and I've done some design work for him...believe me they have the shortest arms and the longest pockets of anyone I've ever met....555
good for tickets though (as they get'em free)
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Nels, and any other AB supporters.
What is your take on the Graham Henry situation? The NZRU have come out and said that they did not realize the level of resentment towards Henry by AB supporters..
I was surprised when he re-applied for the AB coaching job and even more surprised when he got it. Especially in light of the fact that it has meant that Robbie Deans is lost to the Australian job.
I was originally under the impression that Henry was going to retire after the WC, win or lose, as age is very much against him. I do understand that had the AB won the competition he would have been a hero and all of his thinking and planning would have been seen as revolutionary and the way to go. Luck certainly does play a part.
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The public are acting like spoiled brats.
All I heard for two years going into the RWC was about how amazing it was, two interchangable teams and how Henry was a genius blah blah blah.
Lose one single game and see how they turn.
Pathetic really.
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The public are acting like spoiled brats.
All I heard for two years going into the RWC was about how amazing it was, two interchangable teams and how Henry was a genius blah blah blah.
Lose one single game and see how they turn.
Pathetic really.
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A few more wins and they will be be back........
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Mostly a press beat up IMHO but I would have preferred Deans to be appointed....Henry had his go and failed....miserably...and then had the hide to blame the referee and anyone else he could deflect to
Deans is now lost and will be Australia's gain....but decisons have been made and that's it
agree with Schmeens post about the NZ public.....they act like spoilt brats if the AB's lose....80% winning margin isn't enough??!!!...we need to move on from the RWC and I think all this will e forgotten by next week....the win against England over the weekend should have just about killed it off anyway
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Mostly a press beat up IMHO but I would have preferred Deans to be appointed....Henry had his go and failed....miserably...and then had the hide to blame the referee and anyone else he could deflect to
Deans is now lost and will be Australia's gain....but decisons have been made and that's it
agree with Schmeens post about the NZ public.....they act like spoilt brats if the AB's lose....80% winning margin isn't enough??!!!...we need to move on from the RWC and I think all this will e forgotten by next week....the win against England over the weekend should have just about killed it off anyway
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Hopefully the Kiwi's will as you say get over it with a few wins behind them.
We have a similar problem here in SA. There has been a fair amount of negativity over the appointment of Pieter de Villiers. But a few wins should silence a lot of his critics....
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Dan Cater is off to spend six months with French club Perpignan at the end of the SH season.
He will miss the S14 but will be available for the AB's...
A win , win situation or is it??? I am sure the broadcasters and sponsers of the S14 will not be that happy.
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Australia thump a flat looking France to make it a clean sweep in the mid year North / South Internationals.
So it is now on to the Tri-Nations and then the EOY tours and a chance for some revenge for the North..
Yes I do know that Scotland beat Argentina in their second test, but most the Argentinians play in the NH...
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The first half wallabies were woeful massive possession no points.
though the frogs palyed o/k,the young fellow played well in his first test and try was fitting reward.
dont forget this is a second string france team.
as a wallaby supporter was not impressed with the game in any way.
waugh was the difference in the second half with his leadership and play around rucks.
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