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10-02-2008, 01:03
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Looks like this is going to be our "trophy" this year !!!!!!
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10-02-2008, 01:55
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Why is it Ireland can only play rugby in paris once they have been put too far behind to overcome.
I must say I still subscribe to the fact that Ireland flatter to deceive and will never win anything of note.
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10-02-2008, 02:18
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i am starting to side with you...many greats teams .but we never seem to step up to the plate........... ij
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10-02-2008, 08:38
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I take issue with the word 'great'
Wales had a great team in the 70's, 3 Grand Slams England had a great team in the late 90's early 00's.Grand slams, a world cup... Ireland have won one Grand slam ever, hardly anything great there. Mind you, many great players....
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10-02-2008, 12:01
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Most All Black teams are great... WC years aside. The Springboks are a great team at the moment, or at least theu will be untill they start to loose a couple of games.
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10-02-2008, 12:26
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Greatness is just too easily applied.
I just hate seeing the word bandied about and not really earned. It's also relative, some good All Blacks teams are not great purely because their predecessors were so much better.
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10-02-2008, 12:38
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Then we can only infer greatness in a historical sense. You need to look back and say that was a great team as opposed to saying this is a great team because next week they may loose by a wide margin or loose to a weak team and then they are ordinary? As for the AB's is the bar set higher for them than any other country purely because of the feats of some of their predecessors? The AB's who thumped the Lions a few years ago were great, in my book anyway, but they were the nucleus of the team that failed in the last WC.
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10-02-2008, 12:55
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Saw the last 15 mins of France Irl in Giers last nigth (but no sound).. Looked tense and tight, also when it came on there was no timer on screen and I thought there was more time than there was.. Nail biter !! Will watch the full match later but hard to remain as interested knowing the outcome.
Just watched wales / scot now.. Bit scrappy in parts.. Lots of loose play.. Wales should of and did tie it up..
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10-02-2008, 16:59
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THE CURRENT SCOTLAND TEAM are surely the worst side to appear in the 6 nations for a long time they have absolutely no penetration in attack they depend solely on chris patterson for points ok its big loss to scotland to have the lamont brothers out injured especially when it means recalls for southwell and CHRIS PATTERSON who is class but is not a winger dan parks god i could go on for years about how bad that guy is why is he playing ?
must be down to the coach because the glasgow warriors and edinburgh wh o provide most of the players are turning in good performances and results in the magners league and euroean cup so what is happening in the international arena ? the 6 nations is now finished for me i wont be watching any more of scotlands powderpuff efforts i predict scotland will finish with zero points i am too proud a scotsman to tolerate watching that HADDEN MUST GO !
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10-02-2008, 20:39
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agreed but we genuinely had bad players then i think hadden has better players at his disposal ok we dont have a big pool of playesr to pick from and losing rory lamont/ sean lamont/and the back row guyn taylor is a big loss to us but we still have better than southwell and parks and they are haddens picks
patterson should be at 10 and ben cairns should be at full back in rory lamonts absence scott murray is still our best 2nd row (nathan hines is crap another hadden pick) ally hogg how barclay is being picked in front of him is a joke, and the new centre di luca has proise but is not ready yet another year at least so morrison should be at center with henderson ok we will still not be world beaters but we would then have something to build on instead of the no hope we have now ! first thing he must do is BIN DAN PARKS but he wont !
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10-02-2008, 21:22
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I have to agree witht the first part of your comments it was a poor first half but I thought the try was "good" I havn't seen the replays or comments on the television yet only the replay on the screen at the match. I could see both his feet were over the touch line but I couldn't see that they were in contact with the ground so they would not be deemed to have been in touch. Maybe I am wrong, I'll watch the match later to see.
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10-02-2008, 23:11
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England's having another dreadful second half , commentator has just remarked that they are having a "collective brain-fart" !!!!
 Edit: Final Score Italy 19 - England 23
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10-02-2008, 23:11
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England have imploded again, Italy could nick this 23-19 England with a couple of minutes to go.
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10-02-2008, 23:15
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5555555 England.
Should be fun listening to their spin on this weeks performance, doubtless we'll hearhow thay dominated again. shame Italy's line out throwers underthrew 3 VERY important balls. England's man of the match, undoubtedly Brian Moore.
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10-02-2008, 23:16
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It sounded as if Brian Moore was going to have a heart attack at times in the second half England had another poor second half after being comfortably in control at half time. Italy tried hard but lack any great skills in the back line and spent far too much time playing across the field. Not a game to write home about.
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10-02-2008, 23:21
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by the way, have England imploded or should people just accept that other than a decent game against france in the RWC recent results going back over 3 years prove...THEY REALLY ARE JUST NOT VERY GOOD.
Paper over the cracks all you like, but please tell me what they have done and are doing that is so good. (ps...dominating australia in the forwards in the QF was no real achievement whatsoever)
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10-02-2008, 23:25
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Where has anyone said they are so good? You can't take away the achievements of their WCs, consecutive finals is not bad going, but they have been pretty poor in this tournament so far and everyone seems to have conceded that.
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10-02-2008, 23:31
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and the 6N before this one, and the one before that.
Their spin after last week was laughable. Their 2003 WC in is not in question, I referred to the last 3 years where their record is shocking and yet they and many of their supporters still seem to believe that they are the team to beat.
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10-02-2008, 23:45
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Watching England is like having your teeth pulled. A reasonable first half, should have pulled away easily in the 2nd, but another collapse.
Schmeen is right, England have not played well since the 2003 WC, and the odd occasions they have put it together is few and far between. I wonder if Ashton is the man to take England any further? They have the players, but it just isn't working.
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10-02-2008, 23:56
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5555.......Man of the Match for me was the English commentator....hilarious
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11-02-2008, 00:16
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If I could throw a name in, John Mitchell. He was with Woodward for a while and knows English Rugby. He must rate as the coach with the best ever win to loss ratio to ever get fired. He has done a great job in Perth, building a formidable S14 team from scratch. I know it is early days and Ashton deserves a bit of leeway after taking England to the WC Finals. But just a thought....
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