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Old 09-03-2008, 02:30
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What a depressing day of international rugby.

Wales deserved their win, but were nothing special to do it.

Scotland deservedly beat a dreadful England bereft of any ideas at all.

The S H club sides would have beaten any of the 4 teams on show today. Absolutely awful showing.

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Old 09-03-2008, 02:46
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What is most depressing about the performances of all the 6 nations sides is that not one of them would trouble the Boks, AB's or the Wallabies right now.

It isn't sour grapes to say that Wales, to be congratulated on the Triple Crown, are just an average side working well under a good coach. Whether Gatland can take them to the next level remains to be seen, but the current state of the remaining sides is bleak.

England need a change of coach, and personnel, that much is clear.
Wilkinson appears to be on the slide rapidly, with no tactical nous for a stand off. All the old faults were on display today, stupid penalties conceded, lack of cutting edge in the backs, slow ball, aimless kicking from hand,...............etc etc. Its so depressing as a rugby fan right now.

No more comment from me right now, I've said enough.
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:53
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:08
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A MUCH BETTER showing from scotland today could it have been down to the inclusion of graham morrison/simon taylor/ally hogg 3 guys who i was crying out for a after the wales game FRANK HADDEN I AM COMING FOR YOUR JOB MATE 55555555555.

AS i said a much gutsier performance but still the ability to break the game line and create try scoring oportunities was missing next season the two centre positions must be filled by BEN CAIRNS and graham morrison and the glasgow winger tom evans must be included add that to a fully fit sean lamont and rory lamont at full back and chris patterson played at number 10 and i see better things for scotland we have as good a pack of forwards as anyone its the backs where our deficiances have lain

agree with dawsey and the others who have slated the current state of northern hemisphere rugby its in a very poor state if there was an upcoming lions tour there would not be too many automatic picks in the squad.
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:14
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Get a new coach asap

It would have been hard to get rid of Ashton after England getting to the WC final, but jeez I wish we had Jake White picking the team now.
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:25
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I reckon if you'd had another coach for the WC you may have even won it.

Nice enough bloke but that's as far as it goes which I would say is now plain to see
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:28
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A MUCH BETTER showing from scotland today could it have been down to the inclusion of graham morrison/simon taylor/ally hogg

No Tommy, it was because you were playing England.
Scotland are happy if they only beat England and lose the rest. Have you never noticed the Scots always raise their game against us.55555
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MAYBE A LITTle TRUTH THERE ROGER 555555

i have been manically depressed with the constant s hite weather we have been getting in the west of scotland (4 months constant rain and high winds)

but that gutsy performance today created a smile even on my face add that to the barnsley performance later on (i love underdogs winning) and the thought of bello uomos depressed state right now 555555 i may just go downstairs and open that bottle of mcallans malt i have been saving for the last 6 years 55555
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No Tommy, it was because you were playing England.
Scotland are happy if they only beat England and lose the rest. Have you never noticed the Scots always raise their game against us.55555

It is funny how this is one game that the Scots will get up of the floor for..

As a spectical it was a good advert for the new laws that are being aploed in the S14...
The game needs to move on and grinding out wins is not going to bring in new fans...
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Old 09-03-2008, 16:53
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Just saw that way Ireland were beaten.That guy giving away that penalty will stick n peoples' mind for a long time.

Well done the Jocks.
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Old 09-03-2008, 18:25
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I don't know what game the referee was judging in the Ireland Wales game, because it wasn't Rugby Union.

He kept calling offsides and other minor offenses when there wasn't any. Was prob t6he worst referee display I have seen in at least the last 10 years.

Still Ireland was very poor, and Wales deserved their victory.
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I disagree, I thought he called the game pretty well. Got the big decisions correct.
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hmmm...was a dour weekenf rugby with the exception of the Williams try.....great to see a little guy score like that


I'll write this in the Super14 thread but it was a breath of fresh air to watch the Crusders vs Force match after the Six nations matches
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hmmm...was a dour weekenf rugby with the exception of the Williams try.....great to see a little guy score like that


I'll write this in the Super14 thread but it was a breath of fresh air to watch the Crusders vs Force match after the Six nations matches

I know that I am harping a bit, but the new laws make the game far more open as in the Saders, Force game.....
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Boot on the other foot now that Cipriani is playing to basically save Ashton's job while a week ago the coach suspended him
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:10
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Boot on the other foot now that Cipriani is playing to basically save Ashton's job while a week ago the coach suspended him

Well Wilkinson, among others didn't cover himself in glory last weekend. He has to be dropped (Balshaw, Flood, Vickery, Vainakola at least should join him)

Ashtons last roll of the dice before he either resigns (Like his shortlived Irish job) or is shown the door, whatever the result.
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I reckon if you'd had another coach for the WC you may have even won it.

Nice enough bloke but that's as far as it goes which I would say is now plain to see


Geez i bet that hurt !!!
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Old 12-03-2008, 13:58
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todays games...
wins for wales,england and scotland............
on a side note, i watched the england u-20s wallop ireland last nite.they have some fine young players.......
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Old 15-03-2008, 19:14
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todays games...
wins for wales,england and scotland............
on a side note, i watched the england u-20s wallop ireland last nite.they have some fine young players.......


There could be a surprise for Wales and Scotland, but I don't think you are far wrong Jonny.
O'Sullivan and Ashton look like they are fighting to save their jobs too.
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There could be a surprise for Wales and Scotland, but I don't think you are far wrong Jonny.
O'Sullivan and Ashton look like they are fighting to save their jobs too.

hopefully he will step down after defeat today..the team has gone backwards this last 2 years.......
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if i were a scot...id be really pissed off wih my team.beat england one week and lose to italy next week.....fcuking players and coaches are cheating the fans !!!!!!!!!!
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jees that cippriania is magic !!!!!!!!! some great kicks as well....ij
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fcuk me.we are being walloped............
scored the first 10 pts and havent scored since...........
england have scored 30 unanswered pts...........
10 mins left.....
bye bye o sullivan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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