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01-06-2008, 04:38
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01-06-2008, 04:41
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The thing is-WE DONT NEED NO FOREIGN COACH!-and we'll see about that-maybe the RIGHT green and gold will triumph again!
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01-06-2008, 13:23
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thought the tahs played above themselves and scored 2 tries to 1.
they were in the game until beale went off and then seemed to just go through the motions. beale was at least trying some different attacking plays.
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01-06-2008, 18:42
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Beale is a tallent, no doubt about that. My sort of player, one who is not scared to try things. He will have his detractors, but I hope that he goes from strength to strength...
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#145
01-06-2008, 20:22
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Is Larkem still the 1st choice for Oz?
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03-06-2008, 06:29
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was a great game and 'Tahs were really in it (despite having hardly any possesion or territory) until Beale left the field as AD said....were very unlucky to have a try disallowed for offside when the player wasn't (he was too quick for the ref...) but also were lucky to have one disallowed against them for a Brad Thorn punch way back dowenfield
Gotta say tha i expected a Saders win at home but the 'Tahs provided a great game and final for them....was so glad I went down for it also just sobering up now after getting back last night....me and the mates "extended" a little 555.....and had a big drink with some of the 'Tah's after the game
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03-06-2008, 06:32
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BTW: I'd say big Jerry will still rattle a few cages (rib cages) in the NH......look out for a truck coming very soon......
and now to the first test against Ireland on Saturday in Wellington...I'm in an Irish sponsored box for this one!!!!....555
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03-06-2008, 11:14
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Enjoy the test nels, and congrats on your teams performance. Even though they did not win they put up one hell f a good game.....
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03-06-2008, 11:32
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yep....they did themselves proud Pete....no shame in getting pipped by the 'Saders in a home S14 grand final whilst outscoring them on tries 2 to 1...
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03-06-2008, 13:32
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No doubt about it, no denying that Jerry is a big boy who hits hard. Not a complete pre-requisite for being a great player. There were two better No. 6's in the world at the same time as him. It's like watching the Samoans, who spend too much time looking for the highlight reel hit rather than securing the tackle (Ref: Brian Lima in RWC this year and many others). As for Richard Hill being over the hill, well, he is retired so yeah I guess he would be, by his own admission. Does it suddenly make him a crap player when he did play? 
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03-06-2008, 13:44
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Not at all, great player in his day. But would he have made a S14 side this season, or Dallaglio for that matter. There are very few loose forwards playing S14 older than 32. AJ Venter being one and Reuben Thorne being another. And in Thorne's case he has more often than not come off the bench. Anyway all a matter of opinion I guess...
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03-06-2008, 13:55
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I wasn't aware anyone was pushing that Hill should have been in a S14 squad this year. You seem to be using something that wasn't said to prove a point.
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All I have said is that Jerry Collins is a bit overrated in my book. Some people talk about him like he is an all time great. I disagree, I think history will show that his legacy won't be so great. Not like a Michael Jones for example. I don't think that at any time in his career would Collins have made a World XV. Don't know why Dallaglio was brought into the conversation.
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03-06-2008, 15:11
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Different players, I would rate Collins ahead of Smith. But once again that is my opinion. It will be interesting to watch JC play in Europe, one thing is sure about him. He gives his all….
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04-06-2008, 04:59
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Interesting switch by the AB selectors this week with #6....(topical as it is who is replacing Jerry)....So'oialo goes in ahead of a couple of others and Jerome Khaino goes to #8.....probably goes to show their future thinking....
I think Jerry's form has dropped off the last two seasons and he is making the right move for himself.....thought he was a master at turning defence into attack and a very good ball carrier....but yeah he wasn't Michael Jones but who was.... time for some of the new breed to have a go at #6 now and Keiran Reade from the Crusaders (as you mentioned earlier Pete) should have the jersey sewn up in a year or so and be prime by the next RWC.....I see Rodney as a back 3 utility by then
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04-06-2008, 12:58
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The Bok's seem to be the most settled of the three SH biggies at the moment.
Midfield for the AB's still looks a little suspect, with Nonu being up and down. Deans has made a few interesting changes for Australia and it may take them a while to settle on a team. Roll on the Tri Nations. By then the three coaches should have worked out their best starting 15
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05-06-2008, 04:51
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I think Nonu will be great at 12 with his new found confidence, passing + tackling ability (think he's finally maturing as a player) and would love to see Anthony Tuitavake ouside him at #13 (he's on the wing this weekend filling in for Rokockoko)...that's where I see the selectors aiming and agree with the strategies....
bit of a soft front row is the other weekness for the weekend as some of the 'Saders boys have niggles and need a break this week....but don't worry Pete they will have some good warm up games against Ireland and England before looking at how best to play SA and the Tri-Series.....555
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05-06-2008, 11:19
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Agreed on the front row. But I do think that they will be a lot stronger for the Tri Nations.
I am a fan of Nonu's and he has been a lot better this season than in the past. Hopefully he can carry his form thru. We also have a few players in the Bok team who could be termed as experimental. I hope that Luke Watson comes thru. There is a lot of negativity here with regards to him.
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06-06-2008, 10:27
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This Wales - South Africa test series is so frustrating.
Looking at the SA side, the Wales Grand Slam team would have made it the most fascinating NH SH test series for some years (since Englands decline after RWC 2003) If Wales are ever going to win in SA, this would have been the time. Sadly though, there are two problem positions for Welsh Rugby. Openside and Inside Centre. Openside - After Martyn Williams there is <this gap is left blank intentionally> Absolutely nobody, not even a young up and comer worthy of a try. Williams is injured there goes the game. Dafydd Jones will play at openside. Firstly there is no doubt that Dafydd Jones was one of the best young prospects in Welsh rugby, 4 years ago. Injuries and the fact that he is a blind side who never plays openside to my knowledge will count against him. Thank Christ Schalk Berger isn't playing. Inside Centre - A key position in my opinion and the biggest failing that Gareth jenkins had as a coach. There is one inside centre as Wales, and as it goes he is a very good one. Much maligned and misunderstood, but Gavin Henson is the real deal. he is big and strong, a boot like a missile and most of all he makes the right decisions. Analyse Wales with him and without him, it's clear as day. Jenkins hated him, refused to pick him, Wales lost and Jenkins was gone. Gatland is a good coach, it was obvious to a man not blinded by personal feelings. Henson came back, Wales win. Henson has never lost a game in the 6N. He scored 2 tries against SA on his last appearance. He won't on the weekend, he's injured, not on tour. Back up, Sonny Parker, a man most Welsh fans would buy a ticket to NZ for, and he's a 13 to boot. Added to a missing full back and both of Wales world class scrum halves it all adds up to a SA win again. Or will it?
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06-06-2008, 12:44
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Wales , South Africa should be an interesting game. The Bok’s have a new coach in Pieter De Villiers.He is the first ‘black ‘ coach in the history of Springbok Rugby and as such has a lot of pressure riding on him. Loads of expectation, and lots of doubters. Many who would gladly see him fail.
De Villiers has his own vision and as such has picked a team that differs quite considerably from the WC winning team. A lot of them are being rewarded for their Super 14 form. He has brought back John Smit as captain and Butch James as flyhalf. Victor Matfield is on the bench and we can expect to see him come on at some stage. Pierre Spies over Ryan Kankowski, that will have many here debating. But a mobile and fast loose trio picked for an up-tempo game. Conrad Jantjes over Monty. Jantjes has been the form fullback in the S14 and is a good attacking player as is Tonderai Chavhanga. Watch him go. With the games being played at altitude it is going to be a tough last 20 minutes for the Welsh players, especially after a long and hard season. Add to that fact the hard ground in Bloemfontein, no soft landings there. Expect to see a more expansive game than played under Jake White, and it may take a while to come together. I only hope that the SA rugby public and administrators give him enough of an opportunity. Anyway Schmeen. All the best to your Welsh team, hope that we have cracking game on Saturday.
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06-06-2008, 14:23
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The spine of the World Cup squad is there for the Boks but DeVilliers is taking a risk by having selected a team with no settled combinations. Pretty brave for his first Test as Coach and while defending an unbeaten record against Wales at home,especially when he could have just basically selected the previous squad. Still a good side but if Wales get off to a good start................?
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