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Old 25-03-2008, 14:56
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Footballers too good for the Championship

We don't know who the 3rd relegated team is yet (sorry if you're a Fulham fan) but who do you think from the relegated (or likely relegated) clubs will still be playing in the Premiership?

Jimmy Bullard of Fulham
Giles Barnes of Derby

are 2 I think will get transfers
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I'll openly admit I havent seen much of Derby this season, but has Giles Barnes done enough to warrnet a move to a top flight club? He does have good technique and a better footballing brain than most lower league footballers (from what Ive heard), but does he have the physical or will to win that makes him stand out?

Bullard is a fantastic player that if circumstances would of been different, he could of played at a top club as well as added international caps.

Also at Fulham, I think the American international, Clint Dempsy, is a techincally adapt player that is suited a higher standard of football than the Championship. Although his slight frame may make other Premier league clubs think differently. But a move to Spain or Italy could happen.

As for others, I dont know who will be relegated as it could be 1 from about 4 or 5.
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Some players seem to swap one relegated club for another , dont know why clubs go for these players as they obviously werent good enough to help keep their current club in the premier league....
For instance i think Nigel Quashie has been relegated with 4 different clubs....QPR, Forest, Southampton and West Brom....
Jimmy Bullard definately good enough for a top end side next season though....
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Some players seem to swap one relegated club for another , dont know why clubs go for these players as they obviously werent good enough to help keep their current club in the premier league....
For instance i think Nigel Quashie has been relegated with 4 different clubs....QPR, Forest, Southampton and West Brom....
Jimmy Bullard definately good enough for a top end side next season though....

i wouldnt think jb would get into any of the top 6 sides in england.........i reckon he is a good pro .thats about it.....[my opinion]
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Old 27-03-2008, 11:58
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Some players seem to swap one relegated club for another , dont know why clubs go for these players as they obviously werent good enough to help keep their current club in the premier league....
For instance i think Nigel Quashie has been relegated with 4 different clubs....QPR, Forest, Southampton and West Brom....
Jimmy Bullard definately good enough for a top end side next season though....

I should know definitely as I call myself a QPR fan, but I think Quashie went to QPR when they were in the Championship already, rather than being relegated with them. Unless he was there for those darker days when we were relegated to the 3rd tier...
But I think Herman Hreidarsson, when he was relegated with Charlton became the most relegated player from the Prem or top flight. Am not 100% on that, but think he was previously relegated with Ipswich & Wimbledon.
I think they go for players like this because they may be cheap - as a relegated club can't afford to carry players on Prem wages, & also the player wants out of the relegated club. Remember how hard it was for Upson to get out of Birmingham?
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I see Kenny Miller (Derby) scored for Scotland. Wonder if that makes him a transfer target now. Maybe in a team that can get the ball to him he might be a goal machine...
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There would probably be more response to this thread if were titled

"Footballers NOT good enough for the Premiership"......
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I see Kenny Miller (Derby) scored for Scotland. Wonder if that makes him a transfer target now. Maybe in a team that can get the ball to him he might be a goal machine...
I think he is one of those strikers that does a good job at a second division level (CHampionship/SPL) but not in the top flight.

Derby seem to be very good at buying these forwards as Earnshaw is another one!
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Wonder how many of them would be the January panic purchases
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I think he is one of those strikers that does a good job at a second division level (CHampionship/SPL) but not in the top flight.

Derby seem to be very good at buying these forwards as Earnshaw is another one!

On one of the football websites I think the only club rumoured to be interested in Earnshaw was Norwich - currently 17th in the C/ship & 5 points off the 3rd relegation place, so, maybe they're saying he's good enough for a League 1 club...
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On one of the football websites I think the only club rumoured to be interested in Earnshaw was Norwich - currently 17th in the C/ship & 5 points off the 3rd relegation place, so, maybe they're saying he's good enough for a League 1 club...

As Norwich is the nearest club to where I grew up, I take a interest in them. He was sold to Derby from norwich last summer, and any person who has seen Earnshaw play, could tell you that at Norwich he did well because he was the only focal point of attack and his pace alone was enough to get behind most championship defences. This got him 15-20 goals a season. But these attributes will never be enough in the top flight.

Besides Norwich don't need another forward, their problems are throughout the rest of the team, especially in defence.
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Robbie Savage

Anyone want Robbie Savage in their team? He certainly has been good enough to be a Prem footballer but I think those days are gone for him now otherwise Hughes would've kept him at Blackburn. He might be the sort of player that can help Derby get promoted at their 1st attempt - as long as it doesn't affect QPR's chances
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Anyone want Robbie Savage in their team? He certainly has been good enough to be a Prem footballer but I think those days are gone for him now otherwise Hughes would've kept him at Blackburn. He might be the sort of player that can help Derby get promoted at their 1st attempt - as long as it doesn't affect QPR's chances

I like Robbie Savage i think he's one of the characters the Premiership has embraced since its beginning. Controversial, outspoken, reckless, clumsy, but IMO a true professional who has always given all for club and country. Seems to have been around for an eternity.........

Not sure how much top flight football he has left in him but i do hope he'll be around a bit longer. Certainly a player everyone knows and people love to hate. Seen him in numerous up close interviews and he comes across as a really nice bloke despite the reputation that goes before him.

The highlight of his Derby career must have been the bollocking he recieved from the Derby board for turning up to a Saturday home game in a brand new 150,000 GBP Mercedes when the club was rooted at the ar5e end of the table and supposedly in debt.......Good on ya Robbie !!!!
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Bolton

Well a gap is opening up a little. So assuming they go down, anyone rate any of their players.
Jaaskelainen is still good enough in my opinion.
El-Hadji Diouf with his career 8 red cards if you think he's now better disciplined. I looked at the rest of their squad & can't say that there's anyone there I thought is wasted in the Championship.
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Kevin Nolan I think has what it takes in the top flight, although he would never be accused of being skillful. But always manages to chip in with goals. Maybe little Sam's biggest faliure was not even attempting to get the best out of him or even playing him, while in charge.

Jaaskelainen is too old now really, but will last another couple of years lower down the league pyramid. He could of been considered so much more if he took a move to a top club on one of the many occasions they came calling.

E H Diouf has the talent, but his disapline and his ability to go missing in any game might count against him. But im sure a desperate side needing to add some flair will sign him come the end of August. Although he could be set to move back to France.

Vez-Te will probably move on too, but to what level only time (and desperation) will tell.

As for the rest, they are too old and past it for another year in the top flight, which is why they are down their now. Even if they survive now, Megson will have to change 80-90% of the playing staff to really pull away from a relegation fight next season.
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Kevin Nolan I think has what it takes in the top flight, although he would never be accused of being skillful. But always manages to chip in with goals. Maybe little Sam's biggest faliure was not even attempting to get the best out of him or even playing him, while in charge.

Jaaskelainen is too old now really, but will last another couple of years lower down the league pyramid. He could of been considered so much more if he took a move to a top club on one of the many occasions they came calling.

E H Diouf has the talent, but his disapline and his ability to go missing in any game might count against him. But im sure a desperate side needing to add some flair will sign him come the end of August. Although he could be set to move back to France.

Vez-Te will probably move on too, but to what level only time (and desperation) will tell.

As for the rest, they are too old and past it for another year in the top flight, which is why they are down their now. Even if they survive now, Megson will have to change 80-90% of the playing staff to really pull away from a relegation fight next season.

Doesn't look good for David James then...the current choice of Mr Capello !!!
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Doesn't look good for David James then...the current choice of Mr Capello !!!

Sorry, never realised he was only 32 when I was writing earlier. But then I checked my facts.... I'll never be a proper jurno. I just hope that England dont do with James, what they did with Shilton and Seamen, and play him far too long and ignore the physical facts. It was embaressing watching Seamen try to play in goal the last 3 or 4 years. Think I remember reading a Spanish or Italian manager describe him as a peice of meat with eyes, he was so unmobile towards the end.

I would play Green or Carson for England
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Sorry, never realised he was only 32 when I was writing earlier. But then I checked my facts.... I'll never be a proper jurno. I just hope that England dont do with James, what they did with Shilton and Seamen, and play him far too long and ignore the physical facts. It was embaressing watching Seamen try to play in goal the last 3 or 4 years. Think I remember reading a Spanish or Italian manager describe him as a peice of meat with eyes, he was so unmobile towards the end.

I would play Green or Carson for England

Think James is still the best of a bad bunch.......i wouldnt trust Carson after the Croatia game .....
Think Foster and Hart will be the main challengers to James next season.
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Think James is still the best of a bad bunch.......i wouldnt trust Carson after the Croatia game .....
Think Foster and Hart will be the main challengers to James next season.

One bad game under really bad tactics and no-clue manager, does not make you a bad player. The goal would never been scored if the defence and midfield actually knew what they were doing. But yes it was a Carson's fault that the ball went past him.

I think the future for England's GK's is good. What they need is more experience and the only way you will get that is by playing them. If I was in charge I would discard James (I have always liked him even in the 'howler' years at Liverpool.), because he is just stopping players 2 or 3 generations below coming through (same as BEckham), and Robinson because I don't think he will ever be a top class gk. There are 4 good Gk's there and surely one will be able to provide decent service.


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for me.its gotta be either foster or hart to be the next english keepers......
with these guys they would be around for the next 10 or 15 years...just like englands last 2 good keepers in clemence and shilton.....
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Read today that Diouf will be leaving Bolton whether they stay in the Premiership or not. So he's not a happy camper then!
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