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05-06-2005, 19:23
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Ricky Hatton Vs Kostya Tyzsu
For anyone who didnt get to watch this fight last night, All I can say is that you missed out, It was brilliant.
And what made it even better was the fact I had a 50euro on Hatton to win at 3/1 and the boy became a man and beat the best lightweight fighter for the last 20years  Nobody gave him a chance but I just knew he was going to do it even though Tyzsu is rated No2 in the best pound for pound fighters around just after Bernard Hopkins. Anyway our very own IJ was over in manchester watching this fight and I hope he took my advice and put a bet on Hatton  
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06-06-2005, 04:57
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Hi allybabba22, Yes it was a good fight and the best man on the night won the match. Kosta Tyzsu also acknowledged this. In the end I would say that as well as his ability, Hatton's youth made a big difference as the fight progressed. Congratulations Steve
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06-06-2005, 16:15
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Tyzsu has had a great career and i though his comments after the fight where a credit to the man no excuses the better fighter on the night won.
myself I hope he now retires and uses his experince on some young australian fighters. I wish him all the best. I think hatton will contiue to be a top ranked fighter.
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07-06-2005, 13:43
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So why didn't Tyszu come out for the last round? He said that he didn't because he knew he was behind and couldn't make up 2 or 3 points in one round, so he just gave it up. But if he were to win the round and get a couple knockdowns, then he could make up the points. Or one great punch could take out Hatton and win the fight with a KO or a series of great punches could result in a TKO. To just give up doesn't seem like the right way to end an otherwise great career in the ring.
He is being compared to Sonny Liston and Roberto Duran(when he fought Leonard, but probably should have retired before that). I know he fought a tough fight for 11 rounds, but just to give up doesn't seem right. Which is not to take anything away from Hatton who clearly showed that he is a top-notch fighter and erased any doubts that some had expressed about his abilities. Perhaps it was his trainer who talked Tyszu into quitting because he didn't want to see him get hurt. But I think that it is the job of the fighter to fight, and the job of the ref to stop the fight if he thinks one of the fighters is unable to continue or in seriously greater danger than a pro is any time he steps into the ring. After all, it sometimes just takes that one lucky punch to win a fight, and there have been fights where fighters have been knocked down several times, and generally were getting their asses kicked, who won with one miracle punch in the last round. Fighters are paid to fight twelve rounds, not eleven. If the situation were reversed and Hatton had been losing, what do you think the fans would have said if he threw in the towel after 11 rounds? Would you like to see your soccer team walk off the field when they are down two or three goals with 15 minutes left in the match? Because you probably can't come back to win is not a good enough reason to quit. I really don't think if it was Hatton, that he would have ever thrown in the towel. The only way they would have stopped him is by KO or TKO. Never by concession!
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07-06-2005, 20:05
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Trainer threw the towel in.......just heard on TV, Tzysu is splitting with his Trainer
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07-06-2005, 21:17
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Jaybee it`s not that I always disagree with you but it`s twice in a row now..........anyway to not go on with the fight is not exactly "giving up" Johnny Lewis(trainer) could see he Kostya was about to be pummelled big time and wanted to spare his man the indignity of getting knocked out,I think we have to understand and trust the knowledge he has of the punishment already taken and how much more his man can take....
btw I also heard that the split bw kostya and trainer is not really a spat or even a surprise really as Lewis wanted him to retire undefeated after the last fight he won......it`s amazing really how age catches up,last time I saw Kostya he was awesome but this english guy made him look old and slow
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08-06-2005, 00:31
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Yours is a valid viewpoint, but not one that I agree with. With the kind of money that these guys get paid, I don't think they have a right to take a round off for the sake of preserving their dignity. I think that they owe it to their fans and to the guys who paid the big bucks for a ticket to give it their all for 12 rounds, and if that means getting pummeled, so be it. How many guys knew, if not before they ever stepped into the ring, then certainly after the first round or two, that they were going to get their asses kicked, and that the sweat would be wiped off the mat with their dignity, by Mohammad Ali, who, in his lean, mean days, would not only beat a man senseless, but give him a tongue-lashing as well, and make a complete fool out of him. There was a white guy named Chuck Wepner, who he beat to a bloody pulp, but Wepner never quit, he fought like a man to the bloody end. That IMHO is dignity. In my eyes, Tyszu surrendered his dignity when he threw in the towel. Dignity is something you have to fight for when necessary, especially, if you are getting paid the big bucks. Especially, if you call yourself a professional. Quitting is for amateurs. The greatest fight movie of all times, IMHO, is "Raging Bull." In the movie, as well as in real life, Sugar Ray Robinson beats the living hell out of Jake LaMotta. He knocked him senseless, and gave him a horrible, wicked, savage beating. But at the end of the fight, LaMotta went over to Robinson, and said something like, "What's the matter? Couldn't knock me down, could ya?" That is the kind of fighter I like, win or lose. Speaking of movies, there is a new fight movie just out called "Cinderella Man" about James J. Braddock, a great Irish/American heavyweight from the the 1930's IIRC. I saw the previews and it looks like an awesome movie. A kind of real life "Rocky" story. I can hardly wait to see it, and am going to go as soon as I can get the time in the next few days. JayBee 
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08-06-2005, 03:24
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KT never quit he got pulled out but even if he did id sooner see a fighter or his corner throw in a towel rather than be permanatly brain dammaged or seriously hurt.KT was a great champ and should be respected for it not be labled a quitter because so many american fans are pi$$ed off because there the numbnuts (no offence) who betted against Hatton,Frazier did same against Ali it happens.
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08-06-2005, 03:34
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How about preserving their health, or do you like to see the ones lying in the corner frantically being fed oxygen by the paramedics. Tzsyu's trainer said that prior to the last round his eyes were completely unresponsive, and he had no option but to do the right thing and withdraw him, rather than risk permanent damage. Gerald McLellan probably wishes each and every day someone had done the same for him. Frazier is probably gald that someone did the same for him, or is Joe Frazier an 'amateur quitter' Frankly...your posts above are bollocks.
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08-06-2005, 03:58
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suspected broken jaw both sides of face bad damage.
it was the right decision lewis and Tzsyu are not just trainer fighter more to it than that. would be very surpised if this breaks them up. really think Tzsyu wont need a trainer reckon he will retire below why lewis stopped fight http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=3243867
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08-06-2005, 04:20
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I saw that fight, and the Michael Watson fight too, he can almost walk properly again now. I like to watch boxing, but I have no desire to see any man beaten into a wheelchair. If the trainer says enough, then enough it is. You should be looking for superior fighters on the night, not rivers of blood. The biggest balls in world sport belong to fighters, when the bell rings and the bullshit stops that ring is a hell of a lonely place to be. Every man that ever stepped through those ropes has my complete respect. Tzsyu was clearly a great champion who met his match after a long career. He might not like it now because the guy is not used to losing, but a look at Mclellan or Watson should convince him that his trainer was his best friend on Saturday. Mclellan and Watson both fought a round that they should not have, and look where it got them.
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08-06-2005, 05:51
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Tzsyu just gave live interview on returning to sydney at the airport and said "lewis is part of his team they all work as a team and he agrees lewis was doing his job looking after him by stopping the fight"
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08-06-2005, 13:24
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Hi Guys........as Ally Said I Was In Manchester For The Fight....it Was Amazing.ive Been To A Lot Of Great Sporting Venues And Great Sporting Occasions.........but This Out Done Every One Of Them...........the Atmosphere Was Electric!!!!!!
That Ricki Is A Legend..he Loves The People Aand The People Love Him...hes A True Champ............i Had A Great Time At The Fight And Would Go And See The Guy Fight Again.hes One Fit Bastard.he Kept Pounding Kostya For The 11 Rounds...........no Wonder He Didnt Come Out For The Last Round.he Was Fcuked........... The Other Good Thing About Manchester Is The "cosmopolitan".my Favourite Knocking Shop In Manchester :d :d Ij
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09-06-2005, 08:43
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havent see the fight have a long weekend coming up hope to watch my tapes of
Tzyua fight mundine fight maori - lions (live i hope) sharks - tigers (live i hope) V8 supercars from china (live) and drink piss in front of tv all weekend 
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09-06-2005, 09:31
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......and a few greyhound races ???
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09-06-2005, 09:55
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yea Mav and a few greyhound races
having a bad run 1 dog broke leg (russels regret) finished 1 dog dropped back leg muscle (trackies) think finished 1 dog strained wrist (aussie dollar) 2 weeks 1 ***** strained shoulder muscle (thai lily) 3 weeks 1 ***** kennel cough (tess jones) 2 weeks so not really many of mine to watch at the moment. but picking up 10 from breakers sunday week and he reckons 6 city class so heres hoping!! hows the nag going ?
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11-06-2005, 17:22
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Gee Cliff, your luck is due to change.......Absolute Truth ran 5th the other Sunday at Sandown.....not a bad effort.....next start is looking like Bendigo this Thursday......rain forecast will be most helpful.
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28-11-2005, 06:26
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Ricky KO'd Maussa Last night in 9 rounds...
Did anyone see the fight last night, Hatton added the WBA to his WBU and IBF titles...
He got badly cut in the first round from a butt to the head and then got another butt in round 3 which opened up his other eye (Which will keep him out of the ring for 6months), But still went on to beat Maussa, Also because the first fighter to knock him out.... Cant wait until he gets into the ring with Mayweather, Will one of the great fights if it happens...
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28-11-2005, 14:29
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Good Fite.....he Wasnt His Usuall Self But Still Won....imagine If He Was On Form...he Would Have Kicked Ar5e Bigtime..........ij
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28-11-2005, 16:53
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I read this morning that Hatton could be sidelined for a long time because of the injury to one of his eyes. I hope he doesn't end up with too much scar tissue which opens up every time he fights.
Hats off to his win on saturday.
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