Phuket Thailand

thaitan · #1 03-06-2007, 08:39

Does anyone know if a farang has a business in LOS can he employ a farang or can he employ Thai's only.

Nicke · #2 03-06-2007, 08:45

You can employ a farang for every 2m baht, basically. There are lot of other exeptions, I think if you have 50 thais employed you are entitled to one wp/farang etc without having the 2m baht for each farang. Other exemptions may be based on how much tax you pay.

The rules changes all the time.

E.g. a company with 2 farangs working the company is usually setup with 4m baht in capital.

thaitan · #3 03-06-2007, 08:54

Thanks. I have a 2 friends starting up a business in Patong i didnt have the money to buy into it. But they said they will try and employ me somehow. It dos'nt start for another 6 weeks i will see how it goes.

Dodger · #4 03-06-2007, 11:39

Technically you don't also need to actually have the 4m baht but you need to speak to your solicitor regarding this, about how it works.

I thought if you had adequate financing in your company that you could legally employ one farang for every 3 thai employed. Also if you could show that the skill required is not available in Thailand, although pretty hard to do.

thaitan · #5 03-06-2007, 12:19

[quote=Dodger;336410]Technically you don't also need to actually have the 4m baht but you need to speak to your solicitor regarding this, about how it works.

I thought if you had adequate financing in your company that you could legally employ one farang for every 3 thai employed. Also if you could show that the skill required is not available in Thailand, although pretty hard to do.[/QUOTE They will be employing about 20 thai's and my job anyone could do it. I would like to tell you what the business is but it has never been done in LOS before. I'm pretty sure it's a winner just have to wait and see.

LivinLOS · #6 03-06-2007, 12:44

The employing Thais rule is different per region.. Also theres some confusion here between getting a WP and extending your visa based on your WP so you dont need to visa run, part of the same process perhaps but not exactly the same.

I would say speak to sunbelt.

thaitan · #7 03-06-2007, 12:48

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Originally Posted by LivinLOS

The employing Thais rule is different per region.. Also theres some confusion here between getting a WP and extending your visa based on your WP so you dont need to visa run, part of the same process perhaps but not exactly the same.

I would say speak to sunbelt.

Thanks but who is sunbelt?

LivinLOS · #8 03-06-2007, 12:57

Sorry.. Sunbelt Asia.. One of the biggest and professional farang run and biased legal guys in BKK..

thaitan · #9 03-06-2007, 13:26

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Originally Posted by LivinLOS

Sorry.. Sunbelt Asia.. One of the biggest and professional farang run and biased legal guys in BKK..

Thanks for your help. I dont mean to be a smart a*se or anything but i'm just wondering if you live in LOS why are you on this forum all the time? Once again i'm not being a smart a*rse but if i was living in LOS the last thing i would be doing is posting on web forums. Have you lived there for so long that it has become boring? I don't mean to offend you just want to know if after you have lived in LOS for a while you just end up with the same problems you had back home?

LivinLOS · #10 03-06-2007, 14:55

One reason for posting online is.. Keeps me out of the bar..

Life anywhere is what you make of it.. I enjoy life here, like anywhere its not perfect but its the best combination I have found so far.

Do some aspects become boring ?? Sure.. But then you just need to mix up what your doing, theres plenty to do to interest yourself outside of the beer and pussy distractions, though somehow you often seem to end up coming back round to them once you have had some time off.

thaitan · #11 04-06-2007, 11:38

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Originally Posted by LivinLOS

One reason for posting online is.. Keeps me out of the bar..

Life anywhere is what you make of it.. I enjoy life here, like anywhere its not perfect but its the best combination I have found so far.

Do some aspects become boring ?? Sure.. But then you just need to mix up what your doing, theres plenty to do to interest yourself outside of the beer and pussy distractions, though somehow you often seem to end up coming back round to them once you have had some time off.

I get your point. If i lived there and spent every day the same as i do while i'm there on holiday i would be dead in 3 months.

LivinLOS · #12 04-06-2007, 11:49

Really, if you like a drink, then alcohol abuse can be a real reason to take care longer term. I like a drink, and tend to binge drink then none for a few days, but I look around at my mates and peers and a lot of them look less than healthy, all great fun stood there with a drink ion your hand, but I want to stay healthy and mentally not too muddled for decades more. So managing your drinking and finding pursuits and pastimes out of bar life is really something to be aware of.

Expat lifestyle, loits of time on your hands, all socializing happening in bars, it does have a way of catching you out.

ATMwalking · #13 04-06-2007, 11:54

It's true. There are less restrictions on what is acceptable. You can start drinking during the day and no one thinks anything of it. Slippery slope if you don't manage it. There is a big difference to coming here and binging on holiday and then living here. Too many guys don't make the transition and pay a big price.

LivinLOS · #14 04-06-2007, 12:02

I am sure it sounds like a joke.. Someone back in the west with a work week and no time for a beer, the idea that one of your problems is that your actually idle and drink too much.. What a life hey ??

But as you say no one bats an eyelid when its beer or even whiskies at 11am.. By lunchtime most expat bars are already doing well on the breakfast lunchtime trade as guys get the first 'livener' of the day in.. Being drunk at 3pm on a tuesday afternoon isnt anything unusual.. I can guarantee if I ride now along Nanai past my usual watering holes there will be a couple of guys well oiled already. Now as long as they are having fun and enjoying things then more power too em, but when that becomes a daily lifestyle only a very small % do that without physical or mental screwup issues.

I am sure it sounds silly.. But for me as someone who finds it very easy to park dwn on a stool and start getting stuck in myself.. It isnt.

Hobbsy · #15 04-06-2007, 12:37

Farang can employ farang (we are in the process now).
You need to show 2m baht paid up capitol in your bank but it doesn't need to stay in there (as Dodger said - check with your lawyer) and you also need to show you employ 4 thais for every farang WP.

Also - as for living here and posting on here - I personally check the forum 3-4 times a day and post if something interests me - it,s a good way to keep in touch with the many friends I have made from this forum and I think we give some of the most in-depth advice (when we can). Plus you still learn something new all the time

LivinLOS · #16 04-06-2007, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Hobbsy

Farang can employ farang (we are in the process now).
You need to show 2m baht paid up capitol in your bank but it doesn't need to stay in there (as Dodger said - check with your lawyer) and you also need to show you employ 4 thais for every farang WP.

Just a couple of points.. Isnt it that the amount of Thai staff only applies to the extension for visa based on the WP.. and the WP can be attained without that many staff.. Thats what sunbelt says on TV.. Can even have no staff in BKK and one only in Chiang Mai..

Also as it will be a new company, he wont get a WP extension no matter homw many staff until he has a tax record so the whole issue of extending the WP incountry is moot until spring 2008 and next years tax history is available.

It is now much harder for new companies as you cant get the multi B without the tax history in local SEA consuls and you cant get the tax history without the company and working.. Catch 22 !!

thaitan · #17 04-06-2007, 12:59

Thanks for your advice fellas i'm hopeing it all works out and maybe i can catch up with ya's and have a drink someday.

marc26 · #18 05-06-2007, 08:54

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Originally Posted by LivinLOS

I am sure it sounds like a joke.. Someone back in the west with a work week and no time for a beer, the idea that one of your problems is that your actually idle and drink too much.. What a life hey ??

But as you say no one bats an eyelid when its beer or even whiskies at 11am.. By lunchtime most expat bars are already doing well on the breakfast lunchtime trade as guys get the first 'livener' of the day in.. Being drunk at 3pm on a tuesday afternoon isnt anything unusual.. I can guarantee if I ride now along Nanai past my usual watering holes there will be a couple of guys well oiled already. Now as long as they are having fun and enjoying things then more power too em, but when that becomes a daily lifestyle only a very small % do that without physical or mental screwup issues.

I am sure it sounds silly.. But for me as someone who finds it very easy to park dwn on a stool and start getting stuck in myself.. It isnt.

this is a very accurate picture
and one I would have to watch very carefully if i was going to live as an ex-pat permamnently
in another thread, someone asked how much we drink at home and i do drink quite often
when i was living in Patong for 1 year, i really drank too much
the problem, and im not bragging, is i can have 10 beers during the day and be completely functional to head out for the night for more booze and all that just adds up

thaitan · #19 05-06-2007, 09:14

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Originally Posted by marc26

this is a very accurate picture
and one I would have to watch very carefully if i was going to live as an ex-pat permamnently
in another thread, someone asked how much we drink at home and i do drink quite often
when i was living in Patong for 1 year, i really drank too much
the problem, and im not bragging, is i can have 10 beers during the day and be completely functional to head out for the night for more booze and all that just adds up

I'm guessing you don't drink beer chang. It's pretty hard to function after 10 of those.

nelsonone · #20 06-06-2007, 06:25

and just to add a different perspective on the above.....

I am in the process of working towards taking a year in LOS......stiil doing some work from home there but basically as an extended leave holiday.....my plan is to check it out for the longer term to see if I think it suits me for retirement in say 10 years or so......I have had plenty of trips to LOS but most of these have been between 2-4 weeks at atime.....quite different to finding an expat lifestyle that suits me...

The biggest single negative factor for me is the booze....if I can't find a good enough balance in the day between diving, snorkelling, golf, surfing etc and work (mostly in the evennings I hope).....I will surely fall into the trap of heading out with friends + boozing too much.....if this happens my health will not last.....I am over 50 yo....and I will just high tail it back to my western life.....that's the deal I am making myself....and I will keep it!!!!

It really is that big of an issue!!!!

Dodger · #21 06-06-2007, 12:08

Don't think it is that big an issue Nelce. I purposefully live outside of Patong for this very reason. Yes we have bars in Kamala but we only pop down town at night to get some grub and then back. You'd be amazed how often doing nothing is tiring and relaxing watching Tv or bit of computer work is fulfilling for an evening. Then you will take up different hobbies and stuff to do that also takes up your time and time away form drinking.

I look at it as a positive, when I do want to go out, Patong is my nearest nightlife, bit better than where I lived before!!!

thaitan · #22 06-06-2007, 12:40

To all you expats. When you 1st moved to LOS you must have partied like you were there on holidays. How long did it take you to relize that you are not on holidays but this is actaully my new home and the partying has got to stop.

ATMwalking · #23 06-06-2007, 12:42

Day time drinking was never a big issue for me. But if I always had a wide open schedule during the day, then there was no reason to not party hard all night and sleep through the day. So you end up in the same place.

LivinLOS · #24 06-06-2007, 13:14

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Originally Posted by thaitan

To all you expats. When you 1st moved to LOS you must have partied like you were there on holidays. How long did it take you to relize that you are not on holidays but this is actaully my new home and the partying has got to stop.

Somewhere in year 4

Really it comes in waves.. When I moved here I moved with a Thai GF already and lived a pretty normal life.. Then when back to single again I went really nuts for a year or two.. Currently pretty calm again..

Its the fact its always there waiting for you that gets to be the issue IMO.